tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post2000011246060760100..comments2023-12-23T19:04:18.739-05:00Comments on The Crow's Eye: Bachmann in ChainsJack Crowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-20050360471148437072011-06-16T15:38:39.360-04:002011-06-16T15:38:39.360-04:00You're all still ignoring the central fact of ...You're all still ignoring the central fact of Palin: she gets coverage whenever she farts. Doesn't matter if it smells good or stinks to high heaven. Her name and image and fingernail-on-the-blackboard voice are imprinted in your sensorium; think what you will of her. To get that kind of exposure—good, bad, or indifferent—costs. And it costs BIG! What I want to know is who's paying for it? Who's her sponsors? Who are her flacks? How does she (or whoever) pay them?<br /><br />This is the obvious nose-on-your-face feature of contemporary 'news'. Coverage goes where coverage is sent (or beckoned). It's not merit or newsworthiness that causes every single news show to home in on Madonna (or Britney) Palin. It's money and access to producers and the clout to direct.<br /><br />What I think about Palin is irrelevant. What you or pretty much anybody else thinks about her is irrelevant. What's relevant is that we're thinking about her and she's getting coverage & exposure.<br /><br />Ignore her at your peril, too. That's how far that earworm has penetrated the culture.Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-1560022484939930822011-06-16T13:39:46.357-04:002011-06-16T13:39:46.357-04:00Jack,
I give the Merit Class exactly what they gi...Jack,<br /><br />I give the Merit Class exactly what they give people like me. I don't expect to "convert" them because they have no interest in seeing reality.<br /><br />I submit trying to convert them renders you much like OP trying to fix the economy with currency trading fractional changes.<br /><br />The Merit Class is pretty much lost to their swooning near-lust for Technocracy and Fine Dining. They simply want to feel superior. I'd like them to feel superior too, as the most superior class of asshole on Earth -- and that's not ignoring Evil Rethuglicans either. It's suggesting Evil Rethuglicans can't hold a candle to the Merit Class when it comes to being an insufferable ASSHOLE toward anyone who doesn't believe in Merit as Godlike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-69695066386926064162011-06-15T18:14:47.802-04:002011-06-15T18:14:47.802-04:00That, Happy Jack. Exactly that.
I think it's...That, Happy Jack. Exactly that. <br /><br />I think it's hard for some people who buy into the lib/con dichotomy to understand how smartly Palin dodged the take down.<br /><br />It wasn't a hit job. They sent an expeditionary force against her.<br /><br />And she walked.<br /><br />It's not that she's the wickedest genius ever. She understands the environment better the purported experts.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-61869589910831107262011-06-15T17:22:25.398-04:002011-06-15T17:22:25.398-04:00What's up with that?
Unlike Ron Paul, he does...<i>What's up with that?</i><br /><br />Unlike Ron Paul, he doesn't have a fanatical base to raise hell if he's excluded. The media would love to ignore Paul, but they don't have the stones.<br /><br /> <i>She is a media creation, a PR, ad-men, phantasm.</i><br /><br />Nah. Think of her as the Lady Gaga of politics. Or Madonna if you prefer. Someone who knows what the deal is all about. A media creation ends up like one of those Disney film girls. Or the New Kids on the Block.<br /><br />If Palin had handlers, she would have dealt with that Paul Revere stuff like a typical politician. "I misspoke." "I was taken out of context." Etc. Instead, she tells the media to go fuck themselves. A loose cannon is a PR flack's nightmareHappy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-67681909799317680622011-06-15T14:00:44.342-04:002011-06-15T14:00:44.342-04:00Karl,
I think the best approach to merit liberals...Karl,<br /><br />I think the best approach to merit liberals is kind patience. <br /><br />It's not easy to pop that bubble.<br /><br />It took me the better part of a decade.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-87744779511545587992011-06-15T13:54:29.534-04:002011-06-15T13:54:29.534-04:00You can always tell a GooGoo LibPwog's complet...You can always tell a GooGoo LibPwog's complete disconnect from reality in America when the GGLP starts in on attacking Sarah Palin and calling her "stupid" or whatever disparaging synonym, and extrapolating greater "stupidity" (again, or whatever) to those who would support her or vote for her or defend her.<br /><br />The GGLP wishes America were made up of upper-middle-class poly-degreed Enlightened Beings Who Vote Democrat, and cannot bear to think of an America where it's otherwise. Thus, anyone who isn't an upper-middle-class poly-degreed Donkeybot is "stupid" (or whatever synonym) merely because that "stupid" person doesn't vote Democrat, didn't fellate Obama, doesn't have multiple post-12 degrees, and lacks the language of Political Correctness.<br /><br />The harangues show what the GGLP thinks of him/herself, but in a terrific irony, they reveal the GGLP as an inflexible non-thinker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-38069640911268484342011-06-15T13:49:52.104-04:002011-06-15T13:49:52.104-04:00Soma,
While I'm not in the business of caring...Soma,<br /><br />While I'm not in the business of caring if a pol gets no love, I think it's probably easy to explain Johnson's exclusion.<br /><br />He wants to legalize drugs.<br /><br />Jim,<br /><br />It is my personal experience (working campaigns in the "First in the Nation" primary state, that whole networks do in fact go into the bag for predetermined candidates, especially during the primary cycle.<br /><br />Look at how MSNBC and CNN frame Romney and Bachmann, setting them up for a perceived competition between the Teap Arty and the Establishment. The decision has already been made.<br /><br />Each player is replaceable, but the networks have decided on their narrative already. <br /><br />It's not even collusive. It's about the money.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-2263951335988724592011-06-15T13:48:22.753-04:002011-06-15T13:48:22.753-04:00if the thunder don't have an argument, the thu...if the thunder don't have an argument, the thunder resorts to ad hominem.<br /><br />you may be Jack's "friend," but you're full of shit, and your shit-fill is loaded so that you can hurl a shit-projectile at Evil Rethuglicans, and thereby feel superior.<br /><br />what an asshole.<br /><br />hoo-ray, you're not a Republican and therefore are superior human... just ask you!<br /><br />meanwhile go ahead and project all your inanity. it's stunning!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-51550274525943585632011-06-14T15:53:26.803-04:002011-06-14T15:53:26.803-04:00I'm actually disappointed that Johnson is gett...I'm actually disappointed that Johnson is getting so little outlet in the media, what with CNN completely keeping him out of the debate. After all, this is a person who has the potential to completely change the game, given his gubernatorial record in New Mexico, isn't bachman crazy, gingrich suicidal, or romney mormon (to take a cheap shot). He could poll nationally a lot better than he's doing in the primary, and is arguably the man to take Obama's job, but he just doesn't get along as well with social reactionaries.<br /><br />What's up with that?Somahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10227231934216115954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-32546909151436172612011-06-14T15:04:31.271-04:002011-06-14T15:04:31.271-04:00We're cool. Be a good dad; it's something ...We're cool. Be a good dad; it's something I strive to be.<br /><br />Every year I get the "So what do you want for Father's Day?" question. My unwavering reply: "The love, admiration, and respect of my offspring." Then: "Well, will you settle for 1 out of 3?" Big laughs all around.Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-60160847486321466422011-06-14T14:57:11.142-04:002011-06-14T14:57:11.142-04:00Jim,
Kids are home from school. Dad things to do,...Jim,<br /><br />Kids are home from school. Dad things to do, so more later.<br /><br />But, I wasn't arguing that you made a sexist point. I was arguing that the broadly liberal treatment of Palin as a puppet is sexist.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-32855212367824031772011-06-14T14:32:27.234-04:002011-06-14T14:32:27.234-04:00It's not sexist; it's a Palin-specific cla...It's not sexist; it's a Palin-specific claim. Not making the same claim about HRC or MB or all other women in the public sphere.<br /><br />Still begs the question: even if she's the genie out of the broken bottle, who's funding her now? Think about how many declared candidates can't get covered unless they get arrested. And then look at undeclared SP, who gets a family vacay wall-to-walled. Every freakin' Tweet broadcast. That's not accidental.<br /><br />And I don't buy in that there's some monolithic media which is 'in the bag' for anybody. They cover what they are alerted to, and that's all about PR. And that's all about the semoleons.<br /><br />Lookit, on any given Sunday, tune in to the three main network talking head shows. You'll find 2/3 to 3/4 of the guests and roundtablers are 'pubs, and the dems are often bluedogs MOR'ers. Rarely you get a Katrina vanden Heuvel or a Rachel Maddow (when they want to plug her show during ratings weeks).<br /><br />I wish I knew more about how that whole coverage/message game worked. The R's seem to have their message machine well-oiled and on-point; even when they are sniping: controversy = coverage (that's why the HRC/BHO primary to the end was so effective: without a clear front-runner, there was more coverage, less ignorage. There was story).Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-56378115818070932242011-06-14T13:31:29.490-04:002011-06-14T13:31:29.490-04:00Jim,
People seem to continue to respond to me as ...Jim,<br /><br />People seem to continue to respond to me as if I've separated Palin from her habitat.<br /><br />I'm not denying that she's useful to the corporate press, but we seem to be forgetting here that they originally set out to ridicule, minimize and ultimately destroy her.<br /><br />It wasn't about making good press by covering her negatively. They went after her personally, and as a woman. It was about Obama. They were in the bag for Obama already. And they're in the bag for now, or at least until the Republicans can cough up a decent and viable alternative.<br /><br />She's not a puppet who responded according to the whims of hidden puppeteers.<br /><br />Her response was her own, and she came out of it on her terms.<br /><br />She's not the product of the old boys. She's what happened after they plucked her from relative obscurity, miscalculated her self-determination and subsequently failed to clip her wings.<br /><br />They aren't following her, as HJ notes, because she's <i>unserious</i>. They're dancing to <i>her</i> tune because they failed to cast her that way.<br /><br />None of this is an endorsement of Palin. I just see no evidence for the rather sexist claim that she's the manipulated invention of old white men. Palin's their nemesis, now. She developed a base which is fiercely loyal - devoted even - and that makes her a potential kingmaker. <br /><br />I'm sure they'd love to put her back in the bottle, but frankly, McCain broke it when he tried to get her to fill the traditional veep candidate's role as attack dog.<br /><br />While McCain was scrambling to lose an election, Sarah Palin was developing cadre...Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-68916619168420321312011-06-14T13:18:56.140-04:002011-06-14T13:18:56.140-04:00@Jack Crow: Methinks you give Palin far too much c...@Jack Crow: Methinks you give Palin far too much credence. She is a media creation, a PR, ad-men, phantasm. Froth. Bubble. Soap. The thing about soap is if you package it pretty, there'll always be buyers. And yes, she's photo- & media-genic. Who, one wonders, pays for all the coverage she commands? Who calls Joe & Susie producer and says you better get your anchor's asses out to x 'coz Sarah's gonna' be there for 17 mins of camera time and your competitor's already loading up the location truck? To get the kind of access to the media she gets costs big. BIG. It's not random. It's not just good journalists doing their job. It's staging. And it costs. BIG. And, apparently, it pays to put her on, too—it doesn't matter whether it's positive or negative coverage. As long as her image is on the screen. As long as they don't misspell her name. Methinks the lady doth protest too much about how she's covered in the lamestream media. It's a self-fueling performance of ego & celebrity. And somebody's funding it. Fox & Ailes? Maybe. That supercilious neocon Wm Kristol? Also, too, maybe.<br /><br />And the real question is why? What's the endgame w/ SP? I know it has to do with power, but I'm not sure quite how.<br /><br />Your take on Bachmann seems about right.Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-13518437032649763462011-06-14T12:55:57.440-04:002011-06-14T12:55:57.440-04:00A merit liberal is just fine with war, Thunder.
H...A merit liberal is just fine with war, Thunder.<br /><br />Hell, regular old liberal liberals routinely sign on for wars of revenge, salvation, "humanitarian" intervention and plain old naked aggression.<br /><br />The litmus test for "liberal" is not "anti-war."<br /><br />The litmus test for "liberal" is probably closer to "no longer tells nigger jokes aloud, has as many imaginary gay friends as imaginary black friends and buys 'green-friendly' urban assault vehicles."Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-88239614161618389262011-06-14T12:41:35.263-04:002011-06-14T12:41:35.263-04:00What an ironic bit of arrogance.
That's hyste...<i>What an ironic bit of arrogance.</i><br /><br />That's hysterical coming from you, Karl.<br /><br />Happy Jack, and Jack, our corporate media is not liberal. They are wealthy people who work for very wealthy people.<br /><br />Just look at what they've done the last two decades. How many people lost their jobs for helping sell the war on Iraq?<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-13758683796085747482011-06-14T12:36:37.605-04:002011-06-14T12:36:37.605-04:00"Viability" doesn't really have anyt..."Viability" doesn't really have anything to do with what "most people" would like, approve of or want.<br /><br />In campaigns, "viability" is about the perception, among kingmakers, that one could be a king.<br /><br />Traditionally, wealth and a power base help.<br /><br />But, that's not always the case, because "viability" is also comparative. Ron Paul has a consistent power base (his seat, his regular organizers), and he's no pauper.<br /><br /><i>Compared to Romney</i>, Paul is a pauper.<br /><br />Romney has another advantage that Paul doesn't have. Romney can be bought for a lower price. That makes him more viable.<br /><br />What keeps people hesitant about Romney isn't his flipfloppingness. Flipflops aren't a negative for a candidate who has been anointed with viability.<br /><br />His problem is his lack of a reliable power base. It's less of a liability than normal this season because none of the male contenders have one (Santorum is an ex-Senator, Cain is really just the Cosby, Gingrich is a washed up has been, Paul's already been consigned to Official Non-viability, Huntsman is an ex-governor and Obama official, Romney is an ex-governor, Pawlenty is an ex-governor).<br /><br />Bachmann is actually the only official candidate who has a base (the Teap Arty), a power base (her Congressional seat) and some fundraising chops to demonstrate viability. She raised close to $13 million in a <i>run for a House seat.</i><br /><br />Unfortunately, she has the above mentioned role which will likely hamper her viability.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-73897957088625072252011-06-14T12:22:58.810-04:002011-06-14T12:22:58.810-04:00One, she isn't viable. Most Americans do not l...<i>One, she isn't viable. Most Americans do not like her. You underestimate the extent to which the national media is in the tank for Republicans and Republican ideas (primarily, cutting taxes, and cutting social spending to pay for those tax cuts).</i><br /><br />What bullshit. You no more know what "most people" do or don't, like or hate, love or despise than I do.<br /><br />What an ironic bit of arrogance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-18080743314749230812011-06-14T12:18:20.456-04:002011-06-14T12:18:20.456-04:00That's perfect, Happy Jack. Calvinball. (Calvi...That's perfect, Happy Jack. Calvinball. (<i>Calvin and Hobbes</i> references are also always welcome.)<br /><br />All I can do is echo that, Thunder. <br /><br />It's not "naive" to grant that Palin plays a mean Calvinball.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-83653565330639851502011-06-14T12:03:17.690-04:002011-06-14T12:03:17.690-04:00Mainstream journalists are the epitome of merit-cl...Mainstream journalists are the epitome of merit-class liberals. They abhor anyone who exists outside the constraints of the framework.<br /><br />Look at the 2008 debates. People like Russert revel in attacking a Kucinich or a Paul, framing questions just to make them look like buffoons.<br /><br />They would love to do that to the <i>unserious</i> Palin, but she leaves them in the dust. She's playing Calvinball, and they don't know how to react.Happy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-84527186279040422142011-06-14T11:52:28.289-04:002011-06-14T11:52:28.289-04:00There is a political culture at work in media cove...<i>There is a political culture at work in media coverage of campaigns - and it centers on the concept of "viability."</i><br /><br /><i>She gives them scraps and they pay her in pearls. </i><br /><br />One, she isn't viable. Most Americans do not like her. You underestimate the extent to which the national media is in the tank for Republicans and Republican ideas (primarily, cutting taxes, and cutting social spending to pay for those tax cuts).<br /><br />Two, do you really think CNN and company are losing on this deal? That's naive, Jack.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-80230034615778566352011-06-14T11:09:23.963-04:002011-06-14T11:09:23.963-04:00Heh. I'm not romanticizing Palin, Thunder.
I...Heh. I'm not romanticizing Palin, Thunder. <br /><br />I used to work political campaigns, which in NH gives one some measure of access to the national media and prominent politicians.<br /><br />There is a political culture at work in media coverage of campaigns - and it centers on the concept of "viability."<br /><br />"Viability" is like "indecency" in so much as it's difficult to define without a thousand corollaries and caveats, but easily recognizable.<br /><br />Viable candidates get respect. I don't mean that they get free passes or favorable coverages. Hillary Clinton was viable, and the media narrative recognized that fact. They respected her viability, but they never gave <i>her</i> any respect. <br /><br />Part of that follows from the fact that Hillary Clinton is genuinely wonkish, genuinely folksy in person and still often possessed of an impatient abrasiveness with what she judges to be bullshit. She's not good with the cameras. Her folksiness comes off as insincere because she's allowed herself to be imaged and imagined as an institutional authority. Hillary Clinton = institutions, power, authority. We Americans expect our rebels to speak in their local vernacular, and our institutionalists to speak with the Midwestern Flat of game show presenters.<br /><br />Clinton was viable because she had a power base and money, but she handicapped herself with the trappings of authority and experience. The talking heads and the commentariat had their opening, and they went after her with abandon. And lusty gusto.<br /><br />Palin does no such thing. It's not a matter of happenstance. She knows her audience. She knows that they are the "survivors" of a thousand petty dolchstoss moments. She <i>cultivated</i> "outsider." And she did it from within a national Presidential campaign that transformed a media created "Maverick" into the avatar of tradition and continuity.<br /><br />That's not an accident. It's not luck. It's not a romantic view of Palin. This is what she did. She remade entirely - for herself - the idea of viability.<br /><br />Without a demonstrable power base, she's gone from McCain's albatross to the queen of American discontent.<br /><br />It's not because the press is built around distraction. It's because Sarah Palin <i>knows</i> the press is built around distraction, and turned that into her path to viability, influence and power.<br /><br />She gives them scraps and they pay her in pearls.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-46753903674024120002011-06-14T10:51:15.165-04:002011-06-14T10:51:15.165-04:00She's out there using the idiots in the press ...<i>She's out there using the idiots in the press to her own advantage. </i><br /><br />I believe this image of Palin and the press is overly romantic.<br /><br />Do you really think the press is a victim here? Covering meaningless b.s. like Palin's tour is what they do for a living. File it along with other nonsense like the Weiner's wiener crisis.<br /><br />They earn their keep doing things like this. What they <b>don't</b> want to do is report that most Americans think tax rates on corporations and the rentier class are too low, or that we've just performed a 30 year long experiment in tax cutting and deregulation that resulted in epic failure for all but the wealthiest.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-41450374188295852572011-06-14T09:42:39.271-04:002011-06-14T09:42:39.271-04:00Nah. They have to go back to Vancouver. Where they...Nah. They have to go back to Vancouver. Where they apparently don't know how to win.<br /><br />Blowouts out home. As in - seriously, an 8-1 <i>hockey</i> victory? <br /><br />But.<br /><br />Single goal losses in Vancouver. Damn it.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-27331716419031730982011-06-14T09:36:29.744-04:002011-06-14T09:36:29.744-04:00Now that the Bruins won, I bet you feel pretty sil...Now that the Bruins won, I bet you feel pretty silly.Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.com