tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post6087849529949510025..comments2023-12-23T19:04:18.739-05:00Comments on The Crow's Eye: Questions About A Category of BeliefJack Crowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-79926969389395394342010-08-29T15:28:26.623-04:002010-08-29T15:28:26.623-04:00Fantastic replies. Much food for a'thinking.
...Fantastic replies. Much food for a'thinking.<br /><br />(Sorry checked back late - away with kin, away from tech.)<br /><br />Set me to thinking, and for that thanks.<br /><br />Respect,<br /><br />JackJack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-37252169697176928232010-08-28T09:00:33.477-04:002010-08-28T09:00:33.477-04:00There's no such thing as a utopia without a ca...There's no such thing as a utopia without a catch.davidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04754707934311038544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-81258338070471734392010-08-28T03:00:45.082-04:002010-08-28T03:00:45.082-04:00I think anyone who misguides themselves into belie...I think anyone who misguides themselves into believing in the achievement of perfection or utopias is doing themselves a disservice. We can entertain and dream of these things, in fact I think we should, but only in order to attempt the closest preservable version of them. I think you have to have a destination in mind in order to go anywhere - even if reaching that destination is unattainable. You may just find yourself arriving at a suitable compromise.fwoanhttp://forwantofanail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-47419924873214489292010-08-27T20:02:34.762-04:002010-08-27T20:02:34.762-04:00PS:
Jack, might even be able to argue that the pr...PS:<br /><br />Jack, might even be able to argue that the primary blog entry here is a good thematic summary of Christopher Lasch's book criticizing "progress" and "progressives" -- <i>The True and Only Heaven.</i><br /><br />Smithee gets double points if that's the "heaven" he was referencing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-26786435126611800012010-08-27T18:49:03.327-04:002010-08-27T18:49:03.327-04:00Smithee busts out the serious remarks! WTF?!
bue...Smithee busts out the serious remarks! WTF?!<br /><br />bueno!<br /><br />Jack:<br /><br /><i>Does this indicate a subliminal understanding of the limits of community, which many refuse to admit, so much in fact that they project perfection into the supposed soul of men, or into their economies of thought, so that once released it can bring about a new man, a metanoia?</i><br /><br />Fulcrum of the above paragraph:<br /><br /><i><b>,which many refuse to admit,</b></i><br /><br />And it's that refusal of admission, or admission followed by denial of the ramifications, that prods them onward toward their imagined perfect society. But as you suggest, the idea of perfection itself can be flawed. The phrase "perfect society" is to me a self-contradicting term.<br /><br />Perfection would require everyone agreeing on everything, which is difficult in twos, harder in threes, and seems to peak at the NFL on-field team size. Beyond that groupthink rarely is a reflection of common motive, and tends toward a Pied Piper scenario. The trick becomes, "how do we gull the majority to get them to do what we want, but is in <i>their worst interest</i>? And the answer is, lie to them. Tell them what's not in their interest actually is so. Or convince them that their interest is equal to yours...<br /><br />...what's good for General Motors is good for America!<br /><br />Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-70018779385545672832010-08-27T17:57:03.366-04:002010-08-27T17:57:03.366-04:00If human persons, especially in their groups, had ...<i>If human persons, especially in their groups, had any ability to fashion a utopia, would they not have done so already?</i><br /><br />How do you know they haven't? Any number of utopias may have come and gone, wiped out by natural forces, malevolent humans, whatever.<br /><br />If, by utopia, you mean a functioning intentional community and not, well, heaven.AlanSmitheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14302036848656627300noreply@blogger.com