tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post7173982866916052459..comments2023-12-23T19:04:18.739-05:00Comments on The Crow's Eye: If you meet a man on the road, castrate him.Jack Crowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-83924588497668434102012-04-19T15:39:31.196-04:002012-04-19T15:39:31.196-04:00Prove how easily you can answer this one's rhe...Prove how easily you can answer this one's rhetorical questions to their conclusion, to allow us to demonstrate what a boring conclusion it would be. <br /><br />Even though you already understand all of this, and have nothing you can possibly learn from me, it might assist some of your readers to watch you take the baby steps you've already mastered. <br /><br />Here are some of the questions you shied from: <br /><br />"There are bad people in, say, Saudi Arabia. <b>Should the U.S. invade Saudi Arabia to punish those bad people? What about the bad people who actually were in Iraq?</b> Some of them were bad--perhaps not the ones that the teevee said were bad, but some of them were bad. Patriarchal, even. <b>Does that justify the "2003" invasion of Iraq? No? Then why is it acceptable to menace all males of the species based upon any given patriarchal habit?"</b>High Arkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723123626955733759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-85572007951649735652012-04-19T12:13:39.161-04:002012-04-19T12:13:39.161-04:00Arka,
It's not that you've asked some sor...Arka,<br /><br />It's not that you've asked some sort of set of challenging, worldview shattering questions. It's that the whole psychologizing from a far is boring.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-14243308213790829432012-04-13T19:06:48.386-04:002012-04-13T19:06:48.386-04:00For no payment, I enter the internet strictly for ...For no payment, I enter the internet strictly for the purposes of discussing ideas with others. <br /><br />However, your disagreement proves unpleasant, and therefore, it bores me. I formally register that this boredom is of such a great nature that all your beliefs and hopes are little more than the illusions created by a mass media character, who fails to entertain me. <br /><br />Accordingly, I shall return to wittily lecturing others who agree with me, which I find far more stimulating. <br /><br />:)<br /><br />Hard to be challenged, isn't it? Much easier to lecture others on the problems they haven't already solved than to continue up the path yourself.High Arkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723123626955733759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-68214164257095708942012-04-13T15:36:58.824-04:002012-04-13T15:36:58.824-04:00Arka,
It's much simpler. I'm bored by you...Arka,<br /><br />It's much simpler. I'm bored by your Mistress Cleo act.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-50622274587684972682012-04-11T21:13:21.057-04:002012-04-11T21:13:21.057-04:00Tough questions to answer. Just say "fuzzy m...Tough questions to answer. Just say "fuzzy math" and shake your head patronizingly, if you can't handle it.High Arkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723123626955733759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-64755590828959135572012-04-11T15:23:33.283-04:002012-04-11T15:23:33.283-04:00Those are a lot of words wasted to reiterate an al...Those are a lot of words wasted to reiterate an already dodgy <i>and</i> rejected psychoanalysis-from-afar, Arka.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-16170218368630038992012-04-07T15:49:06.748-04:002012-04-07T15:49:06.748-04:00Phil: if we posit a society in which females unfai...Phil: if we posit a society in which females unfairly dominate males, and in which an angry blogger-type chisels the message provided above, that metaphorical role is played by Jack Crow, not by High Arka. <br /><br />The dangerous conclusion that Jack is drawing at the end of his post is the conclusion of collective punishment driven by righteous vengeance. Jack posits: <br /><br />"Because [Subgroup A] has been unfair to [Subgroup B], let us take horrible vengeance upon [Subgroup A]." <br /><br />At the time, this may seem justified. For the man in the metaphor, it may seem justified to take hideous revenge upon women; for Jack now, it may seem justified to take hideous revenge upon men. And in each case--abortion, spousal beating, and castration--the form of revenge has strong sexual overtones. But that's a separate subject. <br /><br />Instead, what the example can show us is that plotting collective punishment against a large percentage of humanity based upon the actions of any part less than 100% is monstrous. <br /><br />There <i>are</i> bad people in, say, Saudi Arabia. Should the U.S. invade Saudi Arabia to punish those bad people? What about the bad people who actually were in Iraq? Some of them were bad--perhaps not the ones that the teevee said were bad, but some of them were bad. Patriarchal, even. Does that justify the "2003" invasion of Iraq? No? Then why is it acceptable to menace all males of the species based upon any given patriarchal habit? <br /><br />Mr. Crow, consequences and retribution have a place. Those who focus on those aspects of change often tend to be applying them too broadly. In your case, you would castrate men for "chaining women to families." Does this mean that women who pressure men to get married should have their ovaries cut out? Or does your psychosexual vengeance point in only one direction? <br /><br />Your personal problems with "family" and "petty tyranny," and the resulting anger, seem to be causing you to desire sexual vengeance against men, which is inappropriate for those men who have not committed the crimes for which you are judging them. Before enacting any of your policies, you might feel better if you explored why you feel so angry at males, guilty about maleness and your unwilling participation in it, and how you can learn to care about all humans in the living world, not just certain of them. This one would be happy to help, and you may send e-mails if you'd prefer to discuss it elsewhere. <br /><br />It may seem hard to believe when clouded by anger, but there are women out there who have behaved poorly, too, and it would be awfully unfair to judge all women based on the actions of a few. We should not slash the uteri of all women as punishment for, say, Margaret Thatcher. Threatening to do so would be a terrible sexual terror campaign, just as would be threatening to castrate all men based on a different set of misplaced criteria.High Arkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723123626955733759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-91003246662224595622012-04-07T09:26:47.992-04:002012-04-07T09:26:47.992-04:00Good catch, Phil. For the subversion Arka is attem...Good catch, Phil. For the subversion Arka is attempting to work, Arka would have to carry the logic of matriarchy all the way to its conclusion.<br /><br />Which would be probably half way to supporting the point I'm trying to make about involuntary family.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-12667222061393580582012-04-07T09:19:50.827-04:002012-04-07T09:19:50.827-04:00Arka,
You couldn't possibly know my motivatio...Arka,<br /><br />You couldn't possibly know my motivations, so let's just dispense with all that embarrassing long distance analysis.<br /><br />As for the alleged hideousness of castrating men who chain women to families and other petty tyrannies - do you not allow for consequences, recompense and retribution in your worldview?Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-86845472871016486112012-04-07T08:01:56.903-04:002012-04-07T08:01:56.903-04:00Arka, in that situation you'd be the woman sug...Arka, in that situation you'd be the woman suggesting that castrating men isn't as bad as all that, and anyway, the ritual slaughtering of the breed males is best understood in gender-neutral terms.Philboyd Studgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10926397147880047519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-72048014275440890002012-04-07T05:41:39.291-04:002012-04-07T05:41:39.291-04:00Your final hideous suggestion, Mr. Crow, raises an...Your final hideous suggestion, Mr. Crow, raises an interesting counterpoint. What if once, in a time forgotten by history, a society of women treated men unfairly? And what if, in that society, men were all castrated at birth, but for a small population of select sires, who were then slaughtered? <br /><br />If an angry blogger of that day chiseled onto stone, "If you meet that woman on the road, impregnate her, and allow no abortions," would his anger be justified? <br /><br />What a terrible, psychosexual aggression to bear.High Arkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723123626955733759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-26749790759305262282012-04-05T21:06:59.962-04:002012-04-05T21:06:59.962-04:00d mantis,
It is interesting to note that any move...d mantis,<br /><br /><em>It is interesting to note that any movement toward authoritarianism, imperialism and mysogony is at light speed. In contrast any push toward social equality, economic equality and human rights moves at a snails pace. </em><br /><br />You got that right. Liberals will be liberals, not much you can do about it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16824840608930313691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-91790824491880995132012-04-03T09:01:36.323-04:002012-04-03T09:01:36.323-04:00Rob,
It is interesting to note that any movement t...Rob,<br />It is interesting to note that any movement toward authoritarianism, imperialism and mysogony is at light speed. In contrast any push toward social equality, economic equality and human rights moves at a snails pace. <br /><br />This fight was inevitable. It has always seemed to me that abortion is the last subject in which it is acceptable to be outwardly mysogynistic. Every other area (work, academia, the home and even the 'boys club' of politics) has to atleast pay lip service to sexual equality.<br /><br />However, in this one issue, mysogony can run rampant with (sometimes) veiled murder accusations while never moving from sexual promiscuity as the underlying cause.<br /><br />I either want to laugh till my sides hurt or punch him in the throat when some asshole liberal says "but look how much progress feminism has made". <br /><br />You mistake solid surface for veneer, motherfucker.d.mantishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03817778296282926641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-75432459037228958382012-04-01T20:19:52.714-04:002012-04-01T20:19:52.714-04:00Rob,
The persistence of deeply ingrained attitude...Rob,<br /><br />The persistence of deeply ingrained attitudes despite so-called social progress is why I've come to reject the notion that progress itself works to erase those attitudes.<br /><br />What happens, instead, is that the old beliefs are repurposed to fit the new modes of thought. Maybe fewer people use the word "sin," but the idea persists deep into our psychological, moral and social norms. Maybe fewer people think it's okay to be publicly racist, but that doesn't mean we don't have replacement (coded) language, instead. And so on.<br /><br />Pied,<br /><br />I'm no fan of Shaheen's volume of work, but on the subject of reproductive freedom, she's better than almost everyone else.<br /><br />But, yes, Lynch-As-Hyena is apt, and a propos.<br /><br />davidly,<br /><br />Tough love? Perhaps. Fervently staked position, all the same? Oh, yes. It's at the crux of the crotch that most dudes pay attention, no?Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-86523983940157656552012-03-31T07:40:04.818-04:002012-03-31T07:40:04.818-04:00I'm gonna call your prescription here tough lo...I'm gonna call your prescription here tough love, Jack. Because I kinda like it.<br /><br />Rob's comment made me think that while women probably have a certain angst re: male sexual freedom, considering male dominance, the converse fear must reside at a most frightening level of paranoia.davidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04754707934311038544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-26941738625708429742012-03-31T06:32:49.026-04:002012-03-31T06:32:49.026-04:00No question that Lynch is a hyena wearing a smile....No question that Lynch is a hyena wearing a smile. <br /><br />But Shaheen wasn't much better. I went to a "house party" with her as a guest during her last run for governor. <br /><br />I asked her to let us know her thoughts about the death penalty. (I knew her view already, but this crowd was largely anti-capital punishment.)<br /><br />She said "We have no duty to support criminals who commit murder." And immediately moved on to the next question.<br /><br />"Who cares about supporting them? I'm asking about whether we should kill them," I quipped.<br /><br />She ignored me, casting her smile and gaze to the next "house party" participant.<br /><br />She hasn't done any better as a senator. I think she wants to get in with the foreign policy crowd.the pied cow bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07227942344107357027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-37917480831588273562012-03-31T02:18:25.455-04:002012-03-31T02:18:25.455-04:00We often hear that things change slowly but no so....We often hear that things change slowly but no so. Look how quickly things changed in New Hampshire. The laws and legislation and how the whole thing was set up in the first place makes it possible for the wealthy to get their way, it’s the whole purpose of our hallowed two party democracy. Like others have said, democracy is just a form of slavery made more palatable to the slaves via propaganda and conditioning. And don’t forget Christianity, it’s part of the equation. According to the bible women are evil, Adam and Eve, it was all Eve’s fault with her apple; she got us kicked out of Paradise. It’s ingrained into us through religion and government which are the vehicles of indoctrination. And all of this type of indoctrination exists so that our society remains patriarchal or at least that is part of it. Women bad, men good. People are so indoctrinated that they think this is all normal but it isn’t normal whatever that is. Normalcy is an invention not a natural phenomenon.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16824840608930313691noreply@blogger.com