tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post8306009643206907670..comments2023-12-23T19:04:18.739-05:00Comments on The Crow's Eye: WomenJack Crowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-26148711540665388912011-10-28T20:25:39.552-04:002011-10-28T20:25:39.552-04:00No worries, Jack. When I didn't see it the fi...No worries, Jack. When I didn't see it the first couple of hours, I figured you'd retrieve it at some point.<br /><br />Best.ms_xenohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/xenophoranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-70643762837102387102011-10-28T13:43:57.084-04:002011-10-28T13:43:57.084-04:00Ahh.
A guy who gets it.
/*falls into beautiful d...Ahh.<br /><br />A guy who gets it.<br /><br />/*falls into beautiful dream about a sane world*/quixotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12650030894065858444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-47260434134370365752011-10-25T09:18:16.465-04:002011-10-25T09:18:16.465-04:00Ms Xeno,
Apologies. Googler caught up your last c...Ms Xeno,<br /><br />Apologies. Googler caught up your last comment as spam. Bastards.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-28241337732630254692011-10-25T09:09:56.459-04:002011-10-25T09:09:56.459-04:00Thank you, good sir.Thank you, good sir.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-21953238248736634582011-10-24T19:59:14.161-04:002011-10-24T19:59:14.161-04:00Hey Man, looking for another Berryman Dream Song I...Hey Man, looking for another Berryman Dream Song I found/remembered <a href="http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/john-berryman/3544" rel="nofollow">this</a>, thought of this post.BDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06557941385560728052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-53998024824805702602011-10-24T18:01:10.254-04:002011-10-24T18:01:10.254-04:00"...Ms Xeno,
I'd read about that further...<i>"...Ms Xeno,<br /><br />I'd read about that further, your way, if you ever felt the inclination to expand upon the thought..."</i><br /><br />I'll see what I can do. But there's a bit of shorthand I've seen in some "safe" spaces meant for female survivors of sexual assault: <i>If not sex, than violence.</i> It's shorthand for the idea that if men make physical advances, women put ourselves at greater physical risk by resisting than we do by complying.<br /><br />A great many men, consciously or not, are aware of this and exploit it. Not just in sexual situations, but in seemingly "ordinary" situations as well. <br /><br />Men who mean well should consider that dynamic before asking us "Why don't you fight back/tell him no/leave/walk away?" etc. In my experience, very few men DO consider it, because they're too busy assuring us that THEY couldn't possibly benefit from this imbalance.<br /><br />I'll tell you something else: Having read that link in your post, I could go forever without hearing ever again how men can't advocate for women's safety at demos and the like because they'd be "reduplicating hierarchical systems" and blah blah blah. The current hierarchical system is already in men's favor. It tells me that if I'm in a public space like a demo, it's up to ME to avoid and/or deal with unwanted male attention. If I get groped or called "bitch" or what-have-you, the most important thing isn't that the male aggressor be made to STOP. No, the most important thing is apparently everyone discussing whether the aggression was real or only in my mind. Also it's important that I shut up about it, because it would be terrible for anyone to think that men are behaving in a predatory and entitled way towards women, even if it's true.<br /><br />That's some depressing "MANarchist" shit, Dude.ms_xenohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/xenophoranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-39676944803995368462011-10-24T16:48:14.306-04:002011-10-24T16:48:14.306-04:00And I was also making a sarcastic joke. Women are...And I was also making a sarcastic joke. Women are bitches when they leave and pathetic when they stay or forgive.Cüneythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839492265797382364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-89840100701463691812011-10-24T16:17:42.799-04:002011-10-24T16:17:42.799-04:00Oh I was just trying to make a joke about absurd n...Oh I was just trying to make a joke about absurd negating arguments males often make to avoid dealing with the real underlying issues.fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01522672049371678717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-68917792733101708632011-10-24T15:08:32.193-04:002011-10-24T15:08:32.193-04:00Fish,
I have my qualms with the essentialist curr...Fish,<br /><br />I have my qualms with the essentialist currents of any doctrine, and no matter how many times I try to read Dworkin favorably, I just can't. But, the idea that feminists are humorless scolds is central to the implied) argument that feminism is merely reactive, and not in fact a significant break from the Western norm.<br /><br />Ms Xeno,<br /><br />I'd read about that further, your way, if you ever felt the inclination to expand upon the thought. <br /><br />Orange,<br /><br />I'm not well disposed to the complaint that men feel "justifiably" put out by women not wanting to put out, or do all the other things young bucks think are owed to them on account of having a piss tube hanging between their thighs.<br /><br />Phil,<br /><br />Separatism, for one. I mean, I wouldn't be all that pleased with the turn of my life if my wife left to live with only women, or if she decided that no man was currently worth her company. And it's in that reaction that I know the truth of their condition: as a rule we entitle ourselves to them, don't we?<br /><br />I'm older now, and we have a strong relationship. I would miss She, the person - and my oldest, closet friend and lover. <br /><br />But, twenty years ago, I'd have been all like "women think they don't need mens? - wait til they get the horny feeling" as if the thing which drives women to be fully human is a penis in one of their holes.<br /><br />I'm not suggesting separatism is the answer. Or that there can be a solution which is <i>The Answer</i>, but it is an alternative, and I think the degree to which men balk at it is the degree to which they feel entitled to the services of women.<br /><br />Cuneyt,<br /><br />That's one way to read it. It's not how I wrote it, but that's certainly one of an infinite number of possible interpretations.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-85505161552435160912011-10-24T14:19:36.336-04:002011-10-24T14:19:36.336-04:00You're right, Crow.
I mean, for women to put ...You're right, Crow.<br /><br />I mean, for women to put up with us, they have to have NO self esteem. Pathetic!Cüneythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839492265797382364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-81516406520257194422011-10-24T02:23:38.109-04:002011-10-24T02:23:38.109-04:00I don't know why or how you put up with men.
...<i>I don't know why or how you put up with men.</i><br /><br />What's the alternative?Philboyd Studgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10926397147880047519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-12415311137848199602011-10-24T01:10:03.554-04:002011-10-24T01:10:03.554-04:00i think its time for a new perspective, Jack. i di...i think its time for a new perspective, Jack. i direct you to this article...<br /><br />http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazine/culturefashion/kinky-stuff/feminism-the-winter-of-men%E2%80%99s-discontent/orangenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-26255661171555933212011-10-23T18:32:54.881-04:002011-10-23T18:32:54.881-04:00We don't think of it as "putting up."...We don't think of it as "putting up." We think of it as keeping our mouths shut and our heads down, so you'll permit us to continue living.<br /><br />Pretty simple, actually.ms_xenohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/xenophoranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-17004264782859490602011-10-23T10:56:48.450-04:002011-10-23T10:56:48.450-04:00But feminists occasionally say inaccurately mean t...But feminists occasionally say inaccurately mean things about men or sometimes fail to show a sense of humor, so it's even. Right?fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01522672049371678717noreply@blogger.com