tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post137522515725404208..comments2023-12-23T19:04:18.739-05:00Comments on The Crow's Eye: Conceptual Maps and the Organization of PowerJack Crowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-45766537931245389152010-05-25T12:24:09.486-04:002010-05-25T12:24:09.486-04:00Fair enough, dude. When I first made a foray into ...Fair enough, dude. When I first made a foray into the arena of social conflict, I attended soirees with like-minded locals where we grilled and chilled around the campfire discussing the politics of our community. Some were into research, others into speaking at public hearings or writing letters to the editor. Over time, some of us ran for local office, some started non-profits to watchdog local government. <br /><br />None of us were party hacks or careerist do-gooders, but through attending government functions and debriefing at our regular socials, we were able to shake things up considerably. A couple of us started alternative newspapers as well. <br /><br />Eventually we went our separate ways across North America, but we stayed in touch, and two of us archived some of the lessons we learned on the website http://www.publicgood.org/ After I began blogging, we started getting requests for consultations all over the country. Since we do this as a volunteer activity, we're limited in what we can do, but we've had some success.<br /><br />We've also met some remarkable people with the ability to make a difference in the world, but many have fallen by the wayside through isolation or attrition. What I'm suggesting is that local chapters of an association focused on our governance aspirations, that met regularly for food and fun, might be worthwhile.Jay Taberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016367021003977811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-83582366345629860442010-05-25T09:41:33.597-04:002010-05-25T09:41:33.597-04:00I think we may have to agree to disagree on this o...I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one. More later, but I just wanted to note that I'm still thinking about what you wrote.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-32823284544111843762010-05-24T11:51:16.641-04:002010-05-24T11:51:16.641-04:00While I don't necessarily agree with your logi...While I don't necessarily agree with your logic, I can see where the moral theatrics industry in the US might lend itself to your conclusion.<br /><br />Organizational dynamics, as you state, consume energy perhaps better spent elsewhere, but organizations are also the only way to achieve anything lasting and substantial. If you're working on multi-generational stuff -- like transforming American governance to something resembling a democracy -- that's going to entail a lot of organizing and responsibilities. If an organization and its members are dedicated to something worthwhile, then protecting both is important.<br /><br />Design of process and protocols can help avoid problems, but attitude makes the difference. Be careful about who you choose to work with, and expect ups and downs. We're only human.Jay Taberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016367021003977811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-67965943778286003352010-05-24T08:06:02.983-04:002010-05-24T08:06:02.983-04:00Spar,
I'm attempting to suggest that any orga...Spar,<br /><br />I'm attempting to suggest that any organization which seeks to preserve itself beyond its immediate, temporal function must establish a set of controls on its shape, which means people in control, which means hierarchy, which means power, which means abuse of power.<br /><br />I'm not suggesting people shouldn't organize; only that in creating organizations, the thing to be addressed is invariably lost to protecting the org.<br /><br />Respect,<br /><br />JackJack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-37333435909089778852010-05-23T19:19:51.096-04:002010-05-23T19:19:51.096-04:00Like tribes, institutions, and markets, a network ...Like tribes, institutions, and markets, a network is a form of organization. A network can be either formal or informal; its participants likewise. The advantage of formalizing voluntary working relationships, to whatever degree works for the network, is in the continuity of archived memory and the stability of leadership development. <br /><br />Mentoring is essential to these, and is next to impossible in an ad hoc arrangement.Jay Taberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016367021003977811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-71664449950475892012010-05-23T08:53:59.337-04:002010-05-23T08:53:59.337-04:00Thank you very much.
I like this:
"It seems...Thank you very much.<br /><br />I like this:<br /><br />"It seems like the former describes prerogatives of power, and the latter servitude to it: the boss bears a greater burden in this respect."<br /><br />Preserves the standard view of power, which has its many uses.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9102937856333775840.post-22243451863454047612010-05-22T16:41:53.758-04:002010-05-22T16:41:53.758-04:00Maybe if we combine the traditional pyramid with y...Maybe if we combine the traditional pyramid with your inversion, we get a Star of David measuring different sides of the same phenomenon? <br /><br />It seems like the former describes prerogatives of power, and the latter servitude to it: the boss bears a greater burden in this respect. <br /><br />However, not being able to eat is a different kind of burden, even if it lends itself to a certain "lightness of being!" <br /><br />Very provocative and original post as usual. Thanks.JRBhttp://ladypoverty.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com